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Purple Gel -
Subject: 1/2 Hr SCARLET->>FIRE !!
What a difference a half day makes. After the debacle at Glenn Falls the previous night, this show proved to be an awesome experience. It was my 19th birthday and I was glad to be in Rochester after the previous night. Unfortunately, while the Greg Kihn Band was ok, ( Pretty much Straight Up Rock & Roll), the Good Rats sucked and when they started throwing rubber rats into the crowd things got ugly with Dead Heads throwing trash back at them. With the cops on top of surrounding buildings spying on the crowd and someone falling off the stands into the parking lot and breaking their back, this show had a real Fear And Loathing atmosphere. The Boys did not disappoint this day, a rather short 2nd set due to the sundown curfew, but some great playing.
First set is solid with great 1/2 step->>Franklin's and FOTD. The LLR is one of my favorite versions ever!!
Second set is stellar!! The Scarlet->>Fire is long (31 Min) And unique.
Here is a review I found online, I couldn't have put it better:
The show is chuck full of delights spanning a fine Half Step > Franklin’s opener, to only the fifth rendition of Lost Sailor > Saint Of Circumstance (still in it's formative stages). And the first set burns with the fire that we would come to associate with early 80's first sets in the years soon to follow. But, for me, the crowning jewel is the enormous Scarlet>Fire that opens the second set. Long enough to fill the entire pre-Drums portion of the set, this is an under appreciate version that can stand with the best of them.
"Scarlet Begonias gets started in a somewhat standard fashion. We are bathed in audience recording perfection as the music pours into us. Brent is slightly out of the mix, but to mention it is to be overly nit-picky. This is one hell of a recording. The song finds its way into its extended jam, satisfying on all levels. Eventually Phil hints at the transition into Fire On The Mountain but Jerry will have none of it. Garcia proceeds to launch into a nearly cosmic level of playing, pushing his only weeks old Doug Irwin "Tiger" guitar into the heavens. His tone absolutely shimmers off the tape, and we are left slack-jawed as he drives himself into one amazing phrase after another. It goes on for several long minutes before the band finally does transition into the next song, and the cosmic level of playing only continues from there.
Fire On The Mountain – all 16 minutes of it – is a 1979 snapshot of the Grateful Dead's evolving essential core magic. Sure, there are folks who proclaim that there is nothing worth their ear after 1974. But this is the sort of performance that even these people would be delighted to hear. The pulsing beat and syncopated rhythms of this Fire On The Mountain display the voice of the band's primal groove in the late 70's. The magic is alive and well, and Garcia wastes no time riding the wave. All of his solos are tinged with something special, but his last efforts goes beyond all expectation. Amidst his inspired and passionate soloing, his exploration of tone via his collection of processing gear pushes his sound into something we might otherwise associate with his midi work ten years later. His guitar's sound pushes completely out of bounds as the world around us is alive in rippling waves and sparkling starlight. We are flashed directly into a singular experience with the music, like some tribal dance reaching its zenith."
The space jam is great and the transition to one of the great Wharf Rats is flawless and powerful, as opposed to the slow mellow start that the song usually recieved.The end of the set , while very standard ( Miracle/Bertha/Good Love) Is well played with a lot of enthusiasm. My advice is, dont chop this show up as suggested in a previous review, but get the whole show. It is well worth it!!!! Maybe the download has been upgraded but I found the sound on the download to be good, and I can hear Phil and the drums just fine.
Subject: Hot Hot Hollander
Boy was that a hot day. I recall driving from a friends house in Buffalo in an old station wagon. We all thought we were flying, so we stuck our arms out the windows to make it seem like we were. The place was serving cheap genesee beer, so of course, me and my friend John had mucho beer. Show was amazing, with a hot Mississippi Half-Step and an even hotter (and long) Scarlet/Fire. You couldn't beat the combination- good ole grateful dead and great friends to dance with....wow...great memories!
gus manheim -
i have all the newspapers from the next day.i don`t remember that.the year before yes,at Giant Stadium a person fell to his death.i`ll look into this.
Subject: fallen deadhead
We were upfront in front of Jerry when the person fell and it was during Wharf rat. I believe Jerry saw him fall too because he had this shocked look on his face but kept playing on...
The media called the concert a "circus" and the deadheads "Animals" the next day, which was not uncommon in these days...
Subject: messy crowd
i remember this one, warmup bands greg kihn band and goodrats. sometime in the middle of the concert, one of the persons i was with saw someone run and jump off the edge of the stadium. people were staring over the edge, so i went up to see. there, some 50-60 feet below, ambulance crew was pulling out an immobilization board to the motionless body on the pavement. i took a photo of it and still have it. never got a copy of the next day's paper, which should have mentioned the incident. which song did that incident occur on. i was so shocked i don't remember.
i also remember the crowd storming the gates in the morning, since we camped with a few 100 deadheads outside the stadium in the parking lot. nobody got hurt, but it was scary.
Subject: til the sun goes down
When I went to see the band i was always intrigued by the silly things. Like after playing a long second set and it gets to around and around and Bobby says" at 12 oclock.. " and you would look at your watch and it was midnight. How did they do that?? At this show though was one the all time best dead-in-sync-moments. When Jerry sang bertha and at the point of til the sun goes down.. I remember turning around and seeing the sun fall behind the stadium and Jerry repeating til it goes down. That alone was worth the price of admission. I'm sure the moment was lost to the keepers of the peace and the city folk that wanted them of the stage at the time the sun fell behind the stadium.
Subject: My strongest memory.....
...of that day, was the woman dressed in a buckskin dress, with black braided hair and a tambourine around her neck. She was dancing in front of the stacks on the right hand side of the stage. To this day she has remained the standard of beauty, a standard yet to be seen again, a beauty that seemed to shine from within. What I would give to meet her.
What a great day. My first (and unfortunately only) Dead show. At 17, I had no clue.
Subject: High in Hollender
Well my friend and I decided to hitch-hike to the show from Ithaca the afternoon before. We got picked up by a bunch of other Heads going to a party somewhere in the country outside of Rochester. So, we went along, and at about 2 am, nice and toasty, left the party, having no idea where we were except in some corn field! We started walking towards the lights at the horizon, and soon got picked up by a couple of heavy metal speed freeks in a souped up Camero, who gave us a ride to the stadeum parking lot. My friend immediatly dropped, and had to be lead around all night while we stood around makeshift campfires in old oil drums, and joined the percussion jam. The day of the show was oh so hot, and the highlight, for me, was the jam into Wharf Rat which ahd a kind of manic Frankenstein's lab gone wrong energy, with a musically interesting move into the song itself, rare in the 70's and beyond. Good times!
Subject: my 1st show!
wow! over 3600 downloads - I'm amazed!
this started out as a humble request to David Gans, after being 'introduced' to him online by a mutual friend...I had heard some of the first set tunes played on the Deadhead Hour in the late 80's...I wondered why he didn't play the awesome Scarlet>Fire from set 2, and he said there must've been something wrong with it...he then asked me if I wanted a copy of the show!!
this was too good to be true, but sure enough, he sent me CDRs copied from his Vault DAT clones!
the rest, as they say, is history!
enjoy this crispy board, folks!
Subject: Outdoor Hat Trick
In reference to the first East Coast Outdoor show since Englishtown.
This actually made for my Labor day weekend GD Hat Trick. 77 - Englishtown, 78 - Giant Stadium (If that counts as outdoor) 79 - Rochester followed up be one of my favorites 80 in Lewistown Maine.
Don't know what happened in 81. I graduated college spring of 81 and had to go to work.
Reading these reviews, I finally learned why the end of the show seemed abrupt. It was cloudy and there was a frantic effort to put up lights while the band was playing so everyone was hoping... but I guess that bit about the curfew won out.
Folks up in that part of the world were ready for the deadheads and didn't want much to do with them. I remember being greeted at campgrounds with a resounding NO Vacancy - GO Away.
Subject: Sound Issues???
The sound on the show is fine. The Saint of Circumstance is corny and silly. For the Bobby fan in all of us it is a real treat. The version is loose, discoey, and just OUT There. Think back to the first Cassidy and the Do-Do-Do's. Bobby gets his act together in future shows. All of Bobby's first couple efforts on songs are a bit on the off side but that's what makes Bobby great. 1-8-78 is a great show for Bobby enthusiasts.
Subject: not worth the listen
I wonder if the previous reviewers were listening to a different version. This is really way too quiet to be appreciated. The bass drops in and out and the drums are wayyy back, etc.
Subject: Excellent Show & How to Make an 80 min abridged version
I have not listened to this show in its entirety, but I just thought I'd share that Missippi-Half Step-->Franklins tower, and then Scarlet all the way to Bertha just barely fits onto an 80 minute disc if you take out drums. Fire on the Mountain flows nicely enough into Space without the ten minute drum solo.
I know this might annoy some purists, but frankly, a lot of Bob Weir's songs annoy me, so I will very often try to reduce a show to 80 minutes.
The sound quality and playing are both very good, and I'm a little surprised (from what I've heard) that this show has not recieved more attention.
capn doubledose -
Subject: What is it with Rochester
They loved this place - Another really hot show with alot of power. The show I heard prior to this was from '88 and they are zombies compared to here where they are playing their hearts out on FOTD etc Half step>Franklins among the best they ever played.
Check out the funky lyrics to Saint of Circumstance this was the 2nd time this was played (I checked with DB)and Bobby sounds like some dead cover band in a Holiday Inn ad libbing the lyrics.
Don Texist -
Subject: Great Fun Long ago
Boy this is one that I remember. September day. Hot. I got dropped off at the stadium early in the morning. Already a scene. Hanging around a bunch of hours. Finally the gates open. Watch a guy carry a wheelcharir in so he can park himself in the handicapped area. Show starts. Opening groups - Good Rats, some other guy. They suck. What do you expect. Dead is great. High energy. Show goes on and on. Crazy crowd. Watch some guy get beat up and bloody. More energy.
When it finally ended I nearly got beat up by a hells angel who was bumming cigarettes.
Or at least this is as I thought I remembered........
Subject: One of the Great Ones
This was my second show, and what a great concert this is. The absolute best combos of Half Step/Franklin's and Scarlet/Fire, plus many other standout versions (Big River!). The show is short because the locals had a brutal curfew: sundown, and the band was doing its best to cooperate. There were two opening bands that contributed to the time crunch (Greg Khin and The Good Rats). Oh well; history missed out on a couple of tunes before drums, but everything that got played was played brilliantly.
Subject: Respectfully deadicated to all the mice and rats kept in cages
This was a show of firsts for me; first outdoor show, first Scarlet>Fire, first daylight show. Clouds rolled in off the lake and kept us all from getting cooked. Jerry forgets some words...but then the finger work makes up for it. Phil was smoking. It's one of those shows where the band is in no hurry to get anywhere in particular. This show reminds me of the happy Jerry shirt.